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its really hard to get "lucky" enough to win many times in a row on that thing. i have this delay too, and it pretty much annoying. i heard if you win like 3 times on scissors, next 3 times you should use paper/rock to win, but idk is it really true since i gave up trying on that

what makes you think it is entirely skill based? theres probably some rng that sometimes makes it skip a symbol or something similar.

Quoted from "Titan"

what makes you think it is entirely skill based? theres probably some rng that sometimes makes it skip a symbol or something similar.

My thoughts exactly, if it was skill based I would have assumed it would be far to easy and people would be raking up the cash.

It would have to be a little random and require a little luck and thought, as would the real game.

I like the system the way it is, it can't be abused or overused this way, but it is still possible to get a high roll.

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I've noticed this "delay" myself when playing the rock, paper, scissors game, but in my opinion the symbols flashing at the top of the screen might only be for aesthetic or visual effect.
As Titan and Xief mentioned above, I believe it is based on a random number generator, not skill. Considering how fast it moves, compared to the number of wins, if you ask me, each win is difficult - I often find it hard to win once, let alone multiple times. In my opinion each "round" should be considered in it's own right, you have a 1 in 3 chance of winning.
In a game of rock, paper, scissors in real life, you don't know what your opponent is going to choose until you each put out your hand, the same should be considered here, rather than getting upset that you pressed rock when it flashed scissors and you still didn't win.

i dont play them , they are a con and a waste of money..

i click on a symbol and it dont stop moving untill conviniently it lands on a *loose*

and like sen is sayin when u click STOP the bloody thing should STOP ... not keep moving.. otherwise why am i even bothering to click it to make it stop in the first place?

Quoted from "xSeNx"

i find it kinda annoying to click rock to kill the scissor - then it stops on paper ... if it was just timing from my side then itd be impossible to always ''feel'' the delay these times - also these times it delays it always seem to stop on lose ?

yea... when i use paper and i see rock there, it doesn't stop when i click and then i often lose. BUT when i use paper and i try click scissors, it stops so unfair..


and now i play this game ONLY if i get free crystals from monsters

2 things here
1. I think this is lvl based I win on archer 60-70% (till lvl 6 then i lose) but on mage i can't get above lvl 4. (archer lvl 56, mage is 86).
2. Something hari said
"The icon means nothing." <--- he is right, its just an illusion, it doesn't work, it can happen once (by luck) but what you see isn't your opponents move. Reason why it skips is a delay. Game is set to make you lose anyways, unless your lucky to always pull out something stronger then your opponent does. The icons aren't your opponents move...

I dont think the spinning wheel has any effect on it at all, if so - those with no lag or those with uber lag either way, would be winning 24/7.
Its fact enough that it doesnt stop when u hit it that it doesnt fit in :S Its no doubt rng

And as for RL rock paper scissors .... well .. your playing against a computer ... its not meant to out think you really - you just play against it.
Perhaps their is skill fighting against people, but considering this is a dodgey digital version, i dont think they put as muchg effort into it as you all seem to think they did.

Maybe im wrong but i would rather see a vid of someone proving it instead of just taking it on sum1s word :O

Quoted from "xSeNx"

true gino, if u hit it and lose its instant, if u hit it on win its either win - delay to draw - delay to loss
and many times its delay to loss many times in row...

didn't any1 win 10 times on that? i think the answer is ''no''.i think that rock-paper-scissors is cheating. is that a bug we lose often? or did they make that game hard because it would be too easy to win... my record is 6 on that game and i clicked these by random

id rather if it just showed a *?* mark flickering , atleast then it doesnt give the impression that the game can be skill based , becuase clickin it at the right time when it should be a win just doesnt work,

i accept that yes its rng , but the thing that gets me is that the game has been set up to look like it should be a skill based game and how quick you press the button to win, its there purely to trick people into thinking they have a chance if they click it at the right time wich is kinda crappy tbh

I still think its all random, but maybe if someone made a vid of maybe 100+ tries in a row showing some form of shoddy system in play, with edited effects on it doing things like tallying up and / or pointing out stuff to show us all what they mean, would be the best way to get thigns changed realy if it did prove anything at all :S

Quoted from "VipGino"

didn't any1 win 10 times on that? i think the answer is ''no''.i think that rock-paper-scissors is cheating. is that a bug we lose often? or did they make that game hard because it would be too easy to win... my record is 6 on that game and i clicked these by random

Man, hard to believe that knowone has beaten it 10x yet, not that it is an unbelieveable fact, but because it was made to be so ridiculously hard. Tho then again, if it were that easy then people would be making utter fortunes off it so no big deal really in the long run, have to admit i would luuurve to get one of those big prizes, wots in the boxs? :O Just reminds me of the gambling halls in the pokemon games rofl :blush:

Quoted from "Zoello"

id rather if it just showed a *?* mark flickering , atleast then it doesnt give the impression that the game can be skill based , becuase clickin it at the right time when it should be a win just doesnt work,

i accept that yes its rng , but the thing that gets me is that the game has been set up to look like it should be a skill based game and how quick you press the button to win, its there purely to trick people into thinking they have a chance if they click it at the right time wich is kinda crappy tbh

I think Zoes post sums up what the system is, the only thing that i would add is that - tho the system is damn hard to win on, it is made to be that way - otherwise everyone would have gold in the treble digits and that would just suck :S
And imo, i think 4s has the best money system going, 3 digits for em all insteada 2 for b and s is way nicer. In other games i played you end up with TONS! of gold at nooby levels and it feels just wrong,

I just aim to win 3x on the large system, 400s or somthing is just epic and u get 3x wins pretty often - at least compared to anything over it.
No point going for higher as it doesnt happen often and in the long run your loosing out on money, it can take 10+ tries to get over 5 and in that time you can get 1-5~ 3x's outa it. Sometimes it pure fails, but when it goes well and u have a few good runs u get a ton of moola and also feel pretty epic for getting it all so fast for doing basically nothing >

Quoted from "VipGino"

Quoted from "xSeNx"

true gino, if u hit it and lose its instant, if u hit it on win its either win - delay to draw - delay to loss
and many times its delay to loss many times in row...

didn't any1 win 10 times on that? i think the answer is ''no''.i think that rock-paper-scissors is cheating. is that a bug we lose often? or did they make that game hard because it would be too easy to win... my record is 6 on that game and i clicked these by random

Theot won in this game 10 times and he keep winning without losing o_O i asked him how did he do this ...he said i should keep my secret for myself lol
.....it's not a lucky game